City of Gardiner
Historic Preservation Commission
6 Church St. Telephone 207-582-6892
Gardiner, Me. 04345 Fax 207-582-6895
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
August 23, 2005
(Rescheduled from August 16, 2005 – no quorum)
Gardiner City Hall, Council Chambers
Present: Clarence McKay, Chair Gail Ham Kirk Mohney
Mike Giberson Norma McDonough
Absent: Geri Robbins-Doyle Victor Tessari, Alternate Derrick Grant, Alternate
Also Present: Barbara McPheters – CEO
Dorothy Morang – Recording Secretary
Christian Hebert
1.) Chair McKay called the meeting to order at 8:03 AM.
2.) Roll call was taken.
3.) Kirk Mohney moved to accept the minutes as submitted. Gail Ham seconded the motion.
Vote: 4 in favor. 0 opposed. Motion passed.
8:06 PM Mike Giberson Arrived
NEW BUSINESS
4.) Consideration of a Certificate of Appropriateness Application from Chad Hebert, Applicant
Proposal: To remove the quarter round and replace the glass panes with Argon filled High Performance Bronze Units, and then replace the quarter round to trim out the windows.
Location: 312 Water Street, City Tax Map 34, Lot 116.
Land Use Ordinance Reference: Section 9, Article F.
Clarence McKay asked Barbara McPheters about the handout. Barbara said that it was not part of this application, but was a Façade Grant Application by this Applicant and makes reference to the replacement of shingles with MDO plywood. Mike Giberson asked what was put on. Barbara said it was some form of a plastic shingle. She said she is concerned because the Applicant proposes something and then does something else.
Mike asked Christian, the Applicant, about the pressure treated wood they were going to put on. Christian said they were going to but when they removed the cedar shingles, it required a lot more work to do and these vinyl composite shakes looked good to them and were cost effective. Mike said that the Historic Preservation Commission did not give Christian permission to put on vinyl shakes. Christian said he was here to discuss the glass and not the previous application. Norma McDonough said that the vinyl shakes have to come down.
Barbara said that she had a conversation with Chad Hebert and asked him to address the issue. She said that Chad told her he would not remove the vinyl shakes. Chris said he would like to talk with Barbara’s boss, Mr. Paszyc. Chris said they chose a product that they felt was a similar construction material. Mike said they were plastic looking.
Gail Ham asked Chris to make a good faith effort to address this issue and not let it come to an enforcement issue.
Norma offered to provide information from the preservation materials to assist him. She also feels that the realtors need to impress upon new owners of these buildings that it is a historic district.
Chris said he would rescind his application to put in an argon filled bronze window unit and put in a clear glass window instead. He said it is a single pane now and would like to put in a double pane.
Kirk Mohney went over the guidelines concerning the replacing of this window.
Kirk Mohney make a motion that we approve the application for the window panes to be replaced with clear glass in kind and moldings in kind with non-pressure treated wood in the existing framework. Norma McDonough seconded the motion.
Vote: 5 in favor. 0 opposed. Motion passed.
Kirk Mohney said, as a follow-up to the prior issue, he doesn’t believe the shakes are what were approved. He asked if Chris could meet with the CEO to work out a way to correct the matter. Chris said he would be happy to do that. Where he has to replace the window, it probably would be spring before he could afford to replace the shakes. Barbara said she would be willing to sit down with Chris and work out a schedule.
9:44 AM Kirk Mohney left.
Commission members discussed ways to make sure applicants have all the information that they need concerning materials and work that can be done in a historic district. Norma offered to personally deliver the national guidelines to applicants if necessary. Mike said that the Downtown Committee is working on providing more information to owners and new buyers.
Norma said she is honored to be welcomed to this Board. When she got a letter telling her about the meeting on the 16th of August, she cut her vacation short to come, only to find the meeting cancelled because there was not a quorum. Today she had to amend her business to come to this meeting. Where we have a standing meeting date, she hopes that in the future we will have a quorum and not have to schedule additional meetings.
5.) Adjourn
Gail Ham made a motion to adjourn. Mike Giberson seconded the motion.
Vote: 4 in favor. 0 opposed. Motion passed.
Meeting adjourned 10:05 APM
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